Buy avid 99006518200 pro tools and eleven rack bundle. If you dont receive an email after a couple of minutes, please check your spam folder. Apr 11, 2017 headrush v eleven rack v line 6 helix lt. As a plugin guy i really dig the 11 software interface which is similar to the axe so id probablly get an axe fx if they ever get really cheap which is not likely im happy with the. When away from the computer, you can use eleven rack as a standalone guitar processor, sending classic guitar tones straight to a venues. Been thinking about doing the same thing except probably with an eleven rack or something else thats cheaper than a kemper for my 5x12 rig of ultimate flexibility setup, which sadly exists only in my head right now although, let me tell you, it sounds fantastic there. I also have an eleven rack and its pretty much the same story.
You can bypass the fenders own sounds and use it just as a power amp for the eleven rack by using its stereo effects return inputs. Nektar technology launches the pacer midi footswitch. Oct 04, 2017 the eleven rack is capable of excellent real tube amp sounds and great effects but i think the axe fx has more of them but at 250 350 for a eleven rack its really hard to justify the extra cost of the axe fx. But how can a guitarist resist the kemper, its just too tempting because its such a revolutionary piece of gear. Pro tools eleven rack get the guitar tone youve always dreamed of eleven rack in the studio eleven rack tightly integrates pro tools software with a highresolution, dual dsppowered audio interface, so youll.
High quality professional profiles of vintage and rare amps, cabs and irs for the kemper profiling amplifier created by michael britt. Im very curious to hear the comparison from someone who seems to have had a similar experiance to myself and a number of other people. They have now launched eleven in rack format for applications in the studio and on stage. Owning both i can honestly say if i were on a limited budget the 11 rack is an absolute no brainer.
At one time i had two eleven racks, one to dial in tones and one to gig. The fender mustang iv is an awesome 2x12 amp, perfect for the eleven rack. If the eleven rack was capable of using 3rd party irs on the unit itself, it may have a fighting chance as far as amp tones but even thats a stretch. You can use the amp and effects modelling capabilities of eleven rack to process signals as you record them, or to process previously recorded audio. Avid eleven rack comparison of amp, cabinet, and fx models duration. Please note that the eleven rack editor only works with eleven rack systems running eleven rack. You can get that from a line 5 hd500 or eleven rack, you dont need an axefx or a kemper. I dont really want to pay more for the poweramp but want to a. Since i dont play out any longer, im looking to sell offdownsize my rig. But after tweaking for my 1st two days, i am still not decided if i will keep the eleven rack or the axefx2. Eleven rack delivers fresh, mindblowing, hyperrealistic guitar amp and effects tones that will inspire your best performances.
Kemper using eleven rack for interface to record via spdif. Jan 27, 2019 been thinking about doing the same thing except probably with an eleven rack or something else thats cheaper than a kemper for my 5x12 rig of ultimate flexibility setup, which sadly exists only in my head right now although, let me tell you, it sounds fantastic there. I have been intrigued by the kemper vs axe fx vs line 6 vs eleven rack. Maybe its not a kemper, but considering my needs and the cost difference, it. Pacer nektar daw and mcu integration currently supports. Discover three scenarios for using eleven rack live. If i get the rack version id need to get a rack too. I was once kicked out a band partially because i didnt want to work with another guitarist who was going to gig an eleven rack. If you wanted to then use your 003, even after turning everything off then back on again, the software is looking for the eleven and. Thinking of picking up a kemper but cant really decide what i want to get.
Now if you are still using your eleven rack and trying to monitor what you hear in helix native, then what you are experiencing is system throughput latency. Eleven rack is a professional pro tools hardware software bundle that provides the ultimate recording and amplifier emulation solution for guitar players. I know the kemper has better tone, but how much better. I went with the live to use in conjunction with my eleven rack when im out and about but mainly to record my 5150 silently. I bought one of these 5 years ago, never paid a cent for any software, just. I have owned an axefx, a helix and an eleven rack, all nice pieces. Nektar daw integration for transport and track control.
May 11, 20 i came very close to giving up and buying something else like kemper, eleven rack, or axefx. Digidesign surprised the world last year when they brought out a guitar amp simulator for pro tools called eleven. If i buy the head i would probably need a case which is around the same price as a rack, and is seemingly out of stock. In electronics, image by jtkung september 27, 2015. Also, how about the software interface for configuring presets. The depth of sound, especially the clarity of the sound that this unit produces has to be heard to be believed. I can tell you out of the 4 units i play the kemper the most and like the axefx gets new amps via updates and users all the time and gets new effects every once in awhile as well. I have been intrigued by the kemper vs axe fx vs line 6 vs eleven rack debates on youtube. Nov 18, 2011 since i dont play out any longer, im looking to sell offdownsize my rig.
Kemper amp profiler comparison to a real amp february 15, 2016 october 4, 2017 in guitar recording. A parallel comparison between avid eleven rack s treadplate amp sim modeling mesa rectifier series and an actual mesaboogie rectifier amp. Discussion kemper profiler rack vs head, powered vs non. Also, i know the fractal has a lot of models and usable presets or those that could be quickly modified to be usable and im curious about what the kemper comes with. Comparing the kemper vs a micd cab into the pa then. Another thing is axe edit, the software editor for the axe. Tube guitar preamp with eleven rack avid pro audio community. I use guitar rig mostly, but i have a few other software apps to rout signal through. Dontwont have the cash anyone with any experience with. This is a zip file with all of the 11 rack presets from the eleven rack users group. Digidesign forces the computer to recognize your unit. Has anyone setup to record their kemper through an eleven rack via spdif.
If not then the issue is the kemper or the profiles themselves, if it does. Avid eleven rack vs line 6 pod hd500x battle demo youtube. I use it, a tuner, a midi switcher and my trusty sonic maximizer pedal as my sole recording and live rig. Id probably get the axe fx over this but there was no way id be able to afford it. Control eleven rack with a controller or volume pedal. The three things that im weighing are cost, pro tools and would the clean tone of the 11r be good.
Second issue i had is driver problems on mac subject. It comes with a dspaccelerated hardware interface, industrystandard pro tools software, and builtin eleven rack expansion pack, providing everything you needand moreto showcase your skills. Eleven rack vs kemper clean tones, looking for good clips of. I am a longtime eleven rack user, that has a kemper sitting in the studio. I usually have the software running each time i use my 11. Kemper amps reinvigorated the world of amp modeling with their line of profiling amps. I think you can get fairly close to it with a pod hd. The axe has more effects and amps, you can do two at a time.
You can use some software that torpedo offers to blend more than 1 ir into one but thats something i just didnt want to mess with. I would like to configure things like this unless there is a bettermore optimum way to do it. Eleven rack all fairly good but the kemper is better than them all. Im trying to decide if i should go with another kemper or eleven rack. Cant afford a kemper or axe fx but those eleven racks are pretty dirt cheap right now. I bought an axefx2 and used it at practice and yes it is a good unit. Im getting rid of the amp, the gsystem and the 4x12. Im sure the avid eleven rack is an amazing rack mount multifx amp modeller, but the software and updating process is a complete nightmare here are just a few reasons why, based upon my recent. Something i have found with the native software is the input needs. I have an eleven rack and recently purchased a fractal ax8. Discussion in gear chat started by briandress, sep 18. Eleven rack vs kemper clean tones, looking for good clips. I wasnt over impressed by the axe fx especially for the money. It was a good hundreds of hours because i was playing, but i never got a good distorted tone from 11r.
All that said, i did buy an ultra, i did end up selling the eleven rack once i compared it side by side to the ultra, i did love the ultra right up until i upgraded to the ii, and i am completely certain i did the right thing on each step. Can anyone guide me to good sound clips for clean tones for both the eleven rack and kpa. The eleven rack is capable of excellent real tube amp sounds and great effects but i think the axe fx has more of them but at 250 350 for a eleven rack its really hard to. Eleven rack archive page 11 avid pro audio community. Or design your own signature sound by mixing and matching amps, speaker cabinets, and mic modelsall captured at their best in a worldclass. The eleven rack is what convinced me i could step away from more than 30 years of tube amps. Archive page 11 for topics related to eleven rack mac, windows, or standalone.
I recently bought a torpedo live and can attest to its quality. You cannot imagine how frustrating it is to use the 003 rack by itself, then have to turn it off and use the eleven rack. Archived discussion kemper profiler rack vs head, powered vs non powered. Avid eleven mark ii plugin compared with eleven rack youtube. With the eleven rack you were monitoring with the rack itself, while recording your wet tone, or your dry tone. Im running it right now with my 5150 in the fx loop of my eleven rack. Whether you are looking for a simple preconfigured solution to control products such as line 6, kemper profiler, axefx and avid eleven, want to control your daw without letting go of your instrument or plan to create your own advanced setups for controlling a live show, pacer does it all. Is there worth of buyin additional tube preamp for eleven rack to. I have abd the kemper against the eleven rack, pod x3 pro, pod xt, gr55, high dollar amp sims, etc, and nothing, and i repeat nothing, even comes close. If you have the money get a kemper it is the best amp i have ever used. Sos forum headrush v eleven rack v line 6 helix lt. Eleven rack vs helix discussion in modeling amps, plugins and apps.
I spent hundreds of hours trying to dial out the fizz in eleven rack. Get everything you need and moreto showcase your skills, including a highresolution, dspaccelerated hardware interface, industrystandard pro tools software, standalone eleven rack editor. Meet the eleven rack editora 64bit standalone version of the eleven rack control window found in pro tools 10 and earlier software that provides a more intuitive way. I have heard comparisons of it vs axe, kemper and it compares very favorably. Axe fx vs eleven rack vs pod hd 500x rob chapman forum. Meet the eleven rack editora 64bit standalone version of the eleven rack control window found in pro tools 10 and earlier software that provides a more intuitive way to get the sounds you need from. If thats still too much, you can just download free profiles or purchase paid profiles. Theres no need for a software program to actually edit the kpa because the front panel is so easy to use. No experience with the 11r, but i do have a helix and a kemper. Had an eleven rack and its a very capable piece of gear, and got much better results with that than the various. You could also consider the line 6 helix or the kemper profiler as both are. The eleven rack already does reamping very well and i like a lot of the amps it has. Introducing the new headrush looperboard discover the looperboard.
Sep 04, 2016 avid eleven rack vs line 6 pod hd500x battle demo. I came very close to giving up and buying something else like kemper, eleven rack, or axefx. Factory presets include line 6 pod and helix, fractal audio axefx, avid eleven rack, kemper profiler, elektron octatrack pickup machine, electro harmonix 45000 looper, midi machine control, a relay preset for nonmidi amps and more. I purchased an eleven rack a couple of years back and loved the way it brought back my desire to play thru ampcabinet set ups but i just didnt want to deal with the hassle of the equipment and the unpredictable foh techs. Sep 18, 2017 i cant really speak to the eleven racks, axe fx or kempers as i dont have any of them.
Michael britts killer kemper tones the increasing popularity of the kemper profiler as a studio and touring solution has given rise to a subindustry of creating prerecorded vintage and modern amp profiles for profiler owners who are not set up to create their own, or who dont have access to the amps they would like to profile. Meet the eleven rack editora 64bit standalone version of the eleven rack control window found in pro tools 10 and earlier software that provides a more intuitive way to get the sounds you need from your rig, faster. If you believe the hearsay, kemper and axefx are right up there, far better than bias. The axefx isnt revolutionary, its just a digital modeller that sounds better than line 6 products and the eleven rack. The helix holds its own pretty well against the kpa, which to be honest was a pleasant surprise.
As a plugin guy i really dig the 11 software interface which is similar to the axe so id probablly get. Discussion kemper profiler rack vs head, powered vs non powered. Im sure the avid eleven rack is an amazing rack mount multifx amp modeller, but. But, again, if you can afford it go for the kemper. There are really only two choices that are practical for home use imo. As much as id love an axe fx, if im honest with myself guitar rig has been enough for me. I can tell you the eleven rack stacks up really well against the fractal audio systems axefx ii.
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